Al Gore TV?

One of the motifs of the age we live in is the rise and rise of the new right wing media. This has upset American liberals no end, and former US Vice-President Al Gore is said to be interested in running his own network.
This is supposed to be necessary as the new media players are apparently not objective enough. What it says about the left wing mind that CNN and BBC are too right wing is open to conjecture.
Let’s accept, for the sake of argument though, the idea that Fox News is biased to the right. This idea is common through traditional media outlets. Al Gore’s solution to biased news is – more bias!
An interesting idea, that.

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14 comments

  1. AL Maviva

    According to an article linked from Drudge this AM, AlBore also said that TV dumbs people down, and it’s made us complacent.
    Presumably, this is a mixed message. Perhaps if Naomi Wolff isn’t too busy writing columns for The Guardian, she could help Al get on message and de-conflicted on this.
    Unless of course the purpose of his new TV channel is to dumb people down and make them complacent… which is possible.

  2. robin

    Anything Al Gore tries in the mass media vein had better be tax payer funded. That SOB is entirely to stupid to ever compete in the business world.

  3. Dave in LA

    Yes, Al wants to be a media mogul. His recent talk (that AL Maviva refers to above) requires a secret decoder ring to interpret, but includes these gems:
    “Our democracy is suffering in an age when the dominant medium is not accessible to the average person…”
    OK, Al, then if it’s the dominant medium, who IS accessing it??
    And this supposed virtue of newspapers at their height:
    “[they]empowered the one to influence the many.”
    And this is a GOOD thing?
    Good luck, Al.

  4. Stewart Kelly

    CNN leftwing? I can accept BBC is a bit. But CNN?!
    And what do you mean: “Let’s accept, for the sake of argument though, the idea that Fox News is biased to the right.”
    Are you seriously claiming it might not be?
    Regardless, I don’t have a problem with Fox’s slant, it’s the constant assertions that it is ‘fair and balanced’ that drive me nuts. If you’re rightwing and proud just come out and say it! There should be space within the media for both pro-left and pro-right news sources.

  5. Gary

    The critics of FOX NEWS do themself a disservice if that is all there is the slogan ‘fair and balanced’ intro songs and the American flag. I could say the Australian Broadcasting Commission’s is offensive for there slogan ‘Its your ABC’. I mite have to pay for it but there is nothing ‘fair and balanced’. It would be helpful for critics especially overseas ones, to list discrepancies and deceptions of FOX NEWS rather then crying that they don’t like the colour of there ice cream. Because the list of “discrepancies and deceptions” by the ABC,CNN,NYT’s and BBC far out way the ‘simplistic’ whine put forth agents FOX NEWS.

  6. Gary

    Stewart Kelly
    The first link was link was typical lack of substantive criticism.. That seconde one was better but I have seen better criticisms of FOX NEWS by “rightist” people. And my point is that I can switch off FOX NEWS but I can never switch off Oz ABC. And the notion that “The protocols of the elders of Fox News ” some how control American opinion is easily disproven by view-a-ship to population as the previous “protocols” are. OH, and two more things, since that second link was two thirds gilt by association,ideological deference’s(how tolerant) then its fair to question Seth Ackerman and FAIR’s motives and history. Secondly nothing in that link compares to the “discrepancies and deceptions” by the ABC,CNN,NYT’s and BBC of the past year.
    I cant help myself but to ask two questions Stewart, why do critics of critics of the Oz ABC almost always bring up Americas FOX NEWS?. And doesn’t it bother you that Rupert Murdoch is used by Arab media and the far right/left as proof that the Jews control the media?

  7. Stewart Kelly

    “The first link was link was typical lack of substantive criticism..”
    It was my own observations from watching a lot of Fox. Take it as you will.
    “And my point is that I can switch off FOX NEWS but I can never switch off Oz ABC.”
    Wha? Gaz, pick up TV remote. Note numbers on key pad. Point remote at TV and press any number *EXCEPT* number two. If this doesn’t work, check remotes batteries and try again.
    “And the notion that “The protocols of the elders of Fox News ” some how control American opinion is easily disproven by view-a-ship to population”
    Yes some people grossly over-estimate Fox’s audience. It’s typically less than three million viewers (in the US) during prime time.
    “…since that second link was two thirds gilt by association,ideological deference’s(how tolerant) then its fair to question Seth Ackerman and FAIR’s motives and history”
    Yes, FAIR is left-leaning. I’ve generally found them to be reasonably fair-minded though. Can’t speak for Seth Ackerman as an individual, don’t know a great deal about him. Guilt by association? Yes to some degree. But any network run by Roger Ailes with Rupert Murdochs money has to get you suspicious, much like any network owned by Al Gore would. Plus, take a good look at the show hosts. The bulk of Foxs content is commentary/talking heads etc. The bulk of the commenters/talkers lean right significantly. This doesn’t mean they are incapable of being fair and balanced, but you only have to watch for half an hour to see that it ain’t.The ‘fair and balanced’ mantra is pure BS.
    “Secondly nothing in that link compares to the “discrepancies and deceptions” by the ABC,CNN,NYT’s and BBC of the past year.”
    I accept that the ABC is somewhat left, but it’s not so far gone that nearly everything that goes to air is designed to advance one sides political cause. You can’t say that about Fox. CNN? Left? Come off it. It’s pretty much straight down the middle. NYT has a moderately left op-ed section. Less so now that Brooks writes for them. Its news part is pretty even-handed. Look at the pasting it regularly gave Clinton a few years back. Their reporting pretty much kicked off the whole Whitewater ‘scandal’, at least in the major media.
    I notice you didn’t mention the seriously right-biased opinion pages in the Wall Street Journal. Which actually outsells the NYT daily.
    “…why do critics of critics of the Oz ABC almost always bring up Americas FOX NEWS?”
    Cos it infuriates lefties to the same extent that ABC infuriates righties.
    “…doesn’t it bother you that Rupert Murdoch is used by Arab media and the far right/left as proof that the Jews control the media?”
    You’ve lost me there. More info required.

  8. Stewart Kelly

    Missed one thing: Just like lefties over-estimate the reach of Fox News, the right over-estimates the reach of CNN. Fox generally outrates CNN within the US. Don’t know what the international figures are like.

  9. Gary

    I wont bother the host after this.
    “Wha? Gaz, pick up TV remote. Note numbers on key pad. Point remote at TV and press any number *EXCEPT* number two. If this doesn’t work, check remotes batteries and try again.”
    I pay for it whether its on or off. Look up Cognitive dissonance and it describes yourself.
    “Yes, FAIR is left-leaning. I’ve generally found them to be reasonably fair-minded though.”
    You would. Again Cognitive dissonance.
    In fact the rest is full of Cognitive dissonance. You should get some treatment for that.

  10. Al Maviva

    You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth. But I’ll try.
    Fox – populist / center right. More populist than anything though. See, e.g. Bill O’Reilly.
    CNN – center-left, lazy. Accepts the status quo, conventional wisdom; can’t be bothered to fact check or read beyond the press talking points. See, e.g. Wolfe Blitzer.
    NBC/ABC – center-left, immature, lazy. Accepts the status quo, would rather have government wipe our collective ass; given to alarmist reporting a-la-Dateline. Typical story line: People die at the end of their lives — and government should do something about it.
    NPR – center-left, left. Either lazy, or intellectually dishonest, or just plain so nutty that reality doesn’t really enter into their world view. Typical outlook – like Pauline Kael said when told Nixon won the election in ’72. “Preposterous. Impossible. Why I don’t know anybody who voted for him.”

  11. Stewart Kelly

    Gary,
    Cognitive Dissonance: “A condition of conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between one’s beliefs and one’s actions, such as opposing the slaughter of animals and eating meat.”
    Well, I’m willing to believe that my beliefs are not fully one hundred percent compatible with my actions, I doubt anyone’s perfect in that regard, but can you please explain in exactly what way anything I may have stated indicates I am suffering from it. Ta.
    Also, you claim you pay for ABC whether it is on or off. True, and so what? You can still turn the bloody thing off.
    Al, I really can’t buy that CNN is center-left. Sorry. The conventional wisdom bit is right, but what’s wrong with that? Conventional wisdom is not always right, but if it is the conventional wisdom of a majority of experts in a given field, then it is probably correct. This doesn’t always match with the conventional wisdom of the general public though, which is somewhat less reliable.
    As for ABC/NBC I’ve never seen them (I’m in Australia). But if ABC/NBC are anything like commercial free to air networks in Australia then they are minimal in news coverage, populist/conventional wisdom. PBS from what I’ve heard has slid rightwards some what in recent years (from being initially left-leaning).
    NPR, from what I’ve heard listening to All Things Considered here in Australia, leans neither left nor right but instead tries to bore its listeners silly.

  12. Scott Wickstein

    I’ve never been able to watch CNN long enough to know how it slants. After 10 minutes I’ve dozed off.
    It’s the most BORING news channel whatever its politics might be.
    All Things Considered is sleep inducing as well.